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loomis
Philippines
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 Posted - 18/07/2005 : 06:35:57
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By Manolo Iñigo
Inquirer News Service
I HESITATE to point out the obvious, but the all-Taiwanese finals in the recent 2005 World Pool Championship in Kaohsiung, Taiwan, is a sign that Chinese Taipei players are now the most dominant force in international billiards.
Word of their skills had preceded them many months earlier. Philippine billiards "godfather" Aristeo "Putch" Puyat said of them: "Players from Chinese Taipei will be the biggest threat in world pool, particularly boy wonder Wu Chia-ching, the 16-year-old prodigy from Taishang county of Taipei."
Gifted with a booming break and obsessed with winning, Wu never lost his cool in eking out a nail-biting 17-16 victory over 27-year-old compatriot Kuo Po-cheng in this year's World Pool Championship match to become the youngest world champion at age 16.
And with its vast reservoir of pool talents, Taiwan could very well mark the beginning of a new dynasty in international billiards. It could also bank on battle-tested Chao Fong-pang, the first Asian to win the World Pool Championship twice (in 1993 and 2000); 2005 San Miguel Beer Asian 9-Ball Tour top finisher Yang Ching-sun, who won the third leg of the Tour in his hometown, Kaohsiung; and Chang Pei-wei, last year's losing finalist to Alex Pagulayan in the World Pool Championship.
"These Chinese Taipei players are dynamic shooters and masters of the jump shots," stressed Puyat, the country's leading billiards benefactor.
In this year's World Pool Championship, Mandaluyong City's Marlon Manalo, sponsored by Puyat Sports and Solar Sports, was the best-placed Filipino by advancing to the semifinals where he lost to Wu.
Seven other Filipinos advanced to the knockout round, namely, last year's champion Alex Pagulayan, Rodolfo Luat, former world No. 1 Francisco "Django" Bustamante, Asian Tour leg winners Ronnie Alcano and Gandy Valle, Dennis Orcollo and Warren Kiamco.
However, former World Pool champion Efren "Bata" Reyes and Antonio "Nikoy" Lining did not make it, losing in the group elimination matches.
At 51, Reyes has shown signs of slowing. He himself has admitted that he's slowly beginning to feel his age. Still, he didn't want to be counted out.
"I'm not yet a wash-up. I think I'm good for some more years," stressed Reyes, who once emerged as the most admired Filipino athlete in a nationwide survey conducted by the private polling firm Social Weather Stations, receiving the votes of 33 percent of 1,200 respondents.
By the way, Reyes was already 45 years old when he won the World Pool title in 1999, while Bustamante was well past 30 when he became the world's No. 1 player in 1998.
During the 1970s and '80s, the Americans were the most dominant force in world billiards. Among their top players were Nick Varner, Mike Lebron, Jay Helfert, Jimmy Rempe, Kim Davenport, Buddy Hall and, much later (in the 1990s and 2000s), Earl Strickland, Johnny Archer, Corey Deuel and Rodney Morris.
In the 1980s, Asian cue artists started to make their presence felt. In 1984, Jose "Amang" Parica started the Filipino invasion of the United States where he defeated leading American players.
Reyes followed suit and, playing under the name Cesar Morales, built a reputation that would swell to its present status -- the most dangerous and finest player on the planet.
Then in 1993, Chao Fong-pang of Chinese Taipei won the World Pool Championship, with Japan's Takeshi Okumura becoming the next champ in 1994, the same year Reyes topped the prestigious US Open 9-Ball tournament. In 1997, Parica ruled the US circuit while Bustamante became the undisputed king in 1998, winning the eight-leg Camel Pro series and pocketing a whopping total prize of P5 million.
Reyes emerged World Pool champ in 1999, with Chao repeating in 2000. Mika Immonen of Finland won in 2001, Strickland in 2002 and Thorsten Hohmann of Germany in 2003. Pagulayan gave the Philippines the world championship in 2004.
In my opinion, this present crop of Asian players can be very powerful, a force to reckon with in the years to come.
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Rock2J
1053 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2005 : 09:29:43
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| Taiwanese players are fantastic in 9-ball. They may well be the most dominant force in 9-ball. But I'm certain that the Taiwanese aren't as good in the other billiard disciplines. |
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mabalasek
Philippines
605 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2005 : 09:49:06
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Originally posted by Rock2J
Taiwanese players are fantastic in 9-ball. They may well be the most dominant force in 9-ball. But I'm certain that the Taiwanese aren't as good in the other billiard disciplines.
true dat :) |
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dek71
Philippines
592 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2005 : 10:14:05
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But in 9-ball, do you think they are the best now? I think they are.  |
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mabalasek
Philippines
605 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2005 : 10:19:23
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| definetly they are the best right now. |
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Rock2J
1053 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2005 : 10:38:49
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| Yes I think the Taiwanese are best at 9-ball, but I do feel that it's because they concentrate almost solely on 9-ball. It would be interesting how Wu Chia Ching would fare playing 8-ball, straight pool or one-pocket. |
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mabalasek
Philippines
605 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2005 : 10:45:16
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8-ball, straight pool and one-pocket are American games buddy....
I highly doubt if there are that many Filipinos that also excel in those games. The most common game that they play is rotation. |
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dek71
Philippines
592 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2005 : 11:30:32
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Mab, do you have mechanics for one pocket? My pool/drinking buddies want to play one pocket for fun. Matagal pa isang game? Last time we played poker 9 cards each and it was fun.
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Originally posted by mabalasek
8-ball, straight pool and one-pocket are American games buddy....
I highly doubt if there are that many Filipinos that also excel in those games. The most common game that they play is rotation.
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predator
Croatia
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Posted - 18/07/2005 : 12:10:24
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Originally posted by mabalasek
8-ball, straight pool and one-pocket are American games buddy....
I would agree on one-pocket. However, 8ball and 14.1 are very international. Recent european championships featured all 3 major disciplines (9ball, 8ball and 14.1).
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Busta4President
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18/07/2005 : 12:58:01
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| take the championships away from Taiwan, and lets see how well the taiwanese players fair. i believe that home advantage is very crucial- put the championships in the philippines, and i guarantee that you will at the very least, get a filippino player who makes the final! |
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iopool
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Posted - 18/07/2005 : 13:17:17
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Originally posted by Rock2J
Taiwanese players are fantastic in 9-ball. They may well be the most dominant force in 9-ball. But I'm certain that the Taiwanese aren't as good in the other billiard disciplines.
Hsia was the 8-ball chompion in BUSAN asian game (2st place - Kun-Chang Huang, 3rd place - Efren Reyes). Another taiwanese player Chin was the runners-up of 2000 U.S. Open 14.1 Straight-Pool Championship (1st place - Ralf Souquet, 3rd place - Efren Reyes). I think taiwanese also have great potential in the other billiard disciplines. |
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C2
1315 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2005 : 13:28:41
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| Whatever happened to Chin Min Wai? |
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mabalasek
Philippines
605 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2005 : 14:13:21
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HAHAHAHAH!!!! Deins ko din alam paano laruin one-pocket pre. Nalaman ko nga lang na may one pocket na laro nung may nag post dito sa forum nung thread about Bata being a hall of famer in that dicipline.
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Originally posted by dek71
Mab, do you have mechanics for one pocket? My pool/drinking buddies want to play one pocket for fun. Matagal pa isang game? Last time we played poker 9 cards each and it was fun.
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Originally posted by mabalasek
8-ball, straight pool and one-pocket are American games buddy....
I highly doubt if there are that many Filipinos that also excel in those games. The most common game that they play is rotation.
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mabalasek
Philippines
605 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2005 : 14:16:26
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http://www.bestbilliard.com/rules/display.cfm?file=one_pocket.cfm
One Pocket
Except when clearly contradicted by these additional rules, the General Rules of Pocket Billiards apply.
TYPE OF GAME One Pocket is a form of pocket-billiards in which the opposing sides each have one of the foot pockets in which to sink their balls. They can not have the same foot pocket as their pocket. The winning player is the one to first score eight balls in his pocket (any eight balls).
PLAYERS The game may be played by two individuals, or by two teams.
BALLS USED The standard set of object-balls numbered 1-15, plus cue-ball.
THE RACK A triangle rack with the apex on the foot spot. There is no particular order to the position of the balls in the rack.
OBJECT OF THE GAME To win by getting any eight balls in your pocket.
SCORING A player scores a ball in his pocket when he legally pockets a called ball in his pocket, or when his opponent shoots a ball(s) into his pocket (whether the opponents stroke was legal or not).
OPENING BREAK The player winning the lag has choice of breaking, or assigning the break to his opponent. The starting player, called the breaker, will choose which one of the foot pockets will be his pocket. His opponent will have the remaining foot pocket. The starting player must then either pocket a called ball in his pocket, or cause a ball from the rack, or the cue ball (after hitting an objet-ball), to make contact with a cushion. Failure to do so is a foul, and the player's inning is ended and a 1-point penalty is applied.
RULES OF PLAY
A player will continue his inning so long as he legally pockets a called ball in his pocket.
Any balls which fall into a pocket other than one of the foot pockets will be spotted at the end of the player's inning. If there are no more balls on the table and a player's inning is still alive then any balls in illegal pockets will be spotted so the player can continue his inning. (An illegal pocket is any pocket other than one of the foot pockets).
Safety play is allowed. Any ball(s) which are pocketed on a safety stroke will be spotted, unless they fall in the opponent's pocket (they count for the opponent as legally scored balls).
Safety play on a ball frozen to a cushion (any ball within a cue-ball's width of a cushion) requires the following for a legal safety. Normal safety play applies unless the ball remains frozen. If the frozen ball has not become unfrozen after each player has played two safeties on it then the third, and any subsequent, safety on said ball (until it becomes unfrozen, or a different object-ball has been played) must either:drive the frozen object-ball to a cushion other than the one it is frozen to, or the cue-ball must contact a cushion after contact with the frozen ball, or the shooter may play a different object-ball. Failure to play a frozen ball as outlined above is a foul. Any ball which falls into the opponent's pocket will count for the opponent (even if the stroke was foul).
LOSS OF GAME A player looses the game if his opponent scores eight balls before he does. A player will loose the game for committing any foul in each of three successive innings.
WINNING THE GAME A player wins the game when he has eight legally pocketed balls in his pocket. A player may win the game by pocketing balls in his opponent's pocket if the opponent does not call attention to the fact that the balls have been scored in the wrong pocket before the required number of balls for the game have been scored. If the opponent notifies the shooter that he has been pocketing balls in the wrong pocket, before the shooter has reached the number required to win the game, then all balls the shooter pocketed will count for his opponent.
PAYING PENALTIES Normal penalties for fouls, scratches, and such will apply. In the event the penalized player does not have any balls to pay the penalty with he will owe the table those balls.
CUE BALL AFTER JUMP OR SCRATCH Incoming player will have ball in hand behind the head string.
CUE BALL AFTER FOUL Incoming player must take cue ball as it sits.
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daomingxi
Taiwan
900 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2005 : 14:19:21
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i still think manalo will rule 9ball in the near future. all he needs is more exposure to international events  |
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loomis
Philippines
1553 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2005 : 14:47:15
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marlon manalo only shifts to 9 ball in year 2003. he plays snooker before..
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i still think manalo will rule 9ball in the near future. all he needs is more exposure to international events
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Rock2J
1053 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2005 : 14:49:11
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Originally posted by iopool
Hsia was the 8-ball chompion in BUSAN asian game (2st place - Kun-Chang Huang, 3rd place - Efren Reyes). Another taiwanese player Chin was the runners-up of 2000 U.S. Open 14.1 Straight-Pool Championship (1st place - Ralf Souquet, 3rd place - Efren Reyes). I think taiwanese also have great potential in the other billiard disciplines.
I was not questioning Taiwanese players' ability in other billiard disciplines. I meant that Taiwanese may be close to dominating 9-ball, but I don't think they are close to being as dominant in the other billiard disciplines. I reckon some of their players are good at those games, but I don't think that much better than the rest for the writer to suggest that 'Chinese Taipei players are now the most dominant force in international billiards'. |
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loomis
Philippines
1553 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2005 : 14:53:01
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i agree with you.. the writer should have said in 9 ball..
i remember in last year's World 8-ball championships in Fujairah UAE wherein it was an all-filipino affair in the semi-finals..
marlon manalo vs alex pagulayan and efren reyes vs francisco bustamante.. but now significant write-up was even mentioned in the daily newspapers or even in news about it.. i guess sportswriter and news here in the philippines thinks only of 9-ball tournaments
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Originally posted by Rock2J
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Originally posted by iopool
Hsia was the 8-ball chompion in BUSAN asian game (2st place - Kun-Chang Huang, 3rd place - Efren Reyes). Another taiwanese player Chin was the runners-up of 2000 U.S. Open 14.1 Straight-Pool Championship (1st place - Ralf Souquet, 3rd place - Efren Reyes). I think taiwanese also have great potential in the other billiard disciplines.
I was not questioning Taiwanese players' ability in other billiard disciplines. I meant that Taiwanese may be close to dominating 9-ball, but I don't think they are close to being as dominant in the other billiard disciplines. I reckon some of their players are good at those games, but I don't think that much better than the rest for the writer to suggest that 'Chinese Taipei players are now the most dominant force in international billiards'.
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iopool
250 Posts |
Posted - 18/07/2005 : 15:58:08
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Originally posted by loomis
i agree with you.. the writer should have said in 9 ball..
i remember in last year's World 8-ball championships in Fujairah UAE wherein it was an all-filipino affair in the semi-finals..
marlon manalo vs alex pagulayan and efren reyes vs francisco bustamante.. but now significant write-up was even mentioned in the daily newspapers or even in news about it.. i guess sportswriter and news here in the philippines thinks only of 9-ball tournaments
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Originally posted by Rock2J
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Originally posted by iopool
Hsia was the 8-ball chompion in BUSAN asian game (2st place - Kun-Chang Huang, 3rd place - Efren Reyes). Another taiwanese player Chin was the runners-up of 2000 U.S. Open 14.1 Straight-Pool Championship (1st place - Ralf Souquet, 3rd place - Efren Reyes). I think taiwanese also have great potential in the other billiard disciplines.
I was not questioning Taiwanese players' ability in other billiard disciplines. I meant that Taiwanese may be close to dominating 9-ball, but I don't think they are close to being as dominant in the other billiard disciplines. I reckon some of their players are good at those games, but I don't think that much better than the rest for the writer to suggest that 'Chinese Taipei players are now the most dominant force in international billiards'.
Sorry, my english isn't well, and I meant taiwanese have potential in the other billiard disciplines. The reason taiwanese were unknown in 8-ball, 14-1 and one pocket was becaouse asian countries hardly held other billiard games. As for World 8-ball championships last year, taiwanese representatives Fang and Chang Hao-Ping haven't already had any good plays in taiwan for several years. In fact, I am indeed very surprised why they could represent taiwan last year. |
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iopool
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Posted - 18/07/2005 : 16:32:52
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In the past 15 years, taiwan did their best to train many talented young players (ex. Yang, Hsia, Kun-Chang Huang, Lu, Jung-Ling Chang, Ying-Chieh Chen, Chia-Ching Wu, Yu-Lun Wu, and Ko etc.) and they also have had excellent shows in the world junior championships and already caused a revolution in taiwan these years. Wu's victory is cheering, but in my opinion, the greatest achievement of taiwan this year is the rising of these new talents in the adult group.
Besides, Hohmann and Vimos Foldes both had ever join the world junior championship in the past. And now I want to ask the filipino friends one questoin: why had never any young filipinos joined this tournment and why are the filipinos always absent from any qualifying tournments held by APBU? (In fact, the filipinos are also absent from World Game this week.) I wonder whether your billiard organizatio is still running.
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Originally posted by loomis
By Manolo Iñigo
Inquirer News Service
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actormate
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Posted - 18/07/2005 : 16:43:40
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Whatever happened to Chin Min Wai?
He works for a pool hall in Taipei and seems rarely participate our local pro-pool tournament but I am not sure about this.
He is a very good 14.1 player but the main stream here is 9 ball |
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majorpao
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 02:50:17
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Originally posted by iopool
And now I want to ask the filipino friends one questoin: why had never any young filipinos joined this tournment and why are the filipinos always absent from any qualifying tournments held by APBU? (In fact, the filipinos are also absent from World Game this week.) I wonder whether your billiard organizatio is still running.
honga naman. We have so many good young players and we dont participate in the world junior championships.
We have Efren Bata Reyes' son Frennie, Richard Aguilar, Carlo Biado, Jeffrey De Luna, etc. |
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mabalasek
Philippines
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 03:11:33
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All of whom are in their 20's. Nothing spectacular about the achievements of the players that you mentioned majorpao.
I think the whole point of this thread is to see which Filipino players are currently overachieving vis-a-vis their age, and are playing beyond expectations. The Jeffrey De Lunas, Richard Aguilars and Carlo Biados of the world are just playing normally according to their age. If you compare these players to the Taiwanese, one could even say that these Filipino teens are way behind their normal growth curve. |
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majorpao
195 Posts |
Posted - 19/07/2005 : 05:14:31
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Originally posted by mabalasek
All of whom are in their 20's. Nothing spectacular about the achievements of the players that you mentioned majorpao.
I think the whole point of this thread is to see which Filipino players are currently overachieving vis-a-vis their age, and are playing beyond expectations. The Jeffrey De Lunas, Richard Aguilars and Carlo Biados of the world are just playing normally according to their age. If you compare these players to the Taiwanese, one could even say that these Filipino teens are way behind their normal growth curve.
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I love Shin (Rachelle Ann Go)
I love Philippine Billiards (not only Philippine but also the rest of the world)
I Love Ginebra; Never Say Die Ginebra
I hope Marlon Manalo will win the 2005 WPC title |
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jrpogi
Philippines
115 Posts |
Posted - 19/07/2005 : 09:10:33
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yup! but it's only one tournament, they should prove it to the world.these two finalist are main stays of the SMBA9ball but did'nt win any,just WU being a finalist once,but kuo?,,,always being eliminated.
i could just really say that it's a "fluke" for them. let's see what's next in line for them.
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Originally posted by loomis
By Manolo Iñigo
Inquirer News Service
I HESITATE to point out the obvious, but the all-Taiwanese finals in the recent 2005 World Pool Championship in Kaohsiung, Taiwan, is a sign that Chinese Taipei players are now the most dominant force in international billiards.
Word of their skills had preceded them many months earlier. Philippine billiards "godfather" Aristeo "Putch" Puyat said of them: "Players from Chinese Taipei will be the biggest threat in world pool, particularly boy wonder Wu Chia-ching, the 16-year-old prodigy from Taishang county of Taipei."
Gifted with a booming break and obsessed with winning, Wu never lost his cool in eking out a nail-biting 17-16 victory over 27-year-old compatriot Kuo Po-cheng in this year's World Pool Championship match to become the youngest world champion at age 16.
And with its vast reservoir of pool talents, Taiwan could very well mark the beginning of a new dynasty in international billiards. It could also bank on battle-tested Chao Fong-pang, the first Asian to win the World Pool Championship twice (in 1993 and 2000); 2005 San Miguel Beer Asian 9-Ball Tour top finisher Yang Ching-sun, who won the third leg of the Tour in his hometown, Kaohsiung; and Chang Pei-wei, last year's losing finalist to Alex Pagulayan in the World Pool Championship.
"These Chinese Taipei players are dynamic shooters and masters of the jump shots," stressed Puyat, the country's leading billiards benefactor.
In this year's World Pool Championship, Mandaluyong City's Marlon Manalo, sponsored by Puyat Sports and Solar Sports, was the best-placed Filipino by advancing to the semifinals where he lost to Wu.
Seven other Filipinos advanced to the knockout round, namely, last year's champion Alex Pagulayan, Rodolfo Luat, former world No. 1 Francisco "Django" Bustamante, Asian Tour leg winners Ronnie Alcano and Gandy Valle, Dennis Orcollo and Warren Kiamco.
However, former World Pool champion Efren "Bata" Reyes and Antonio "Nikoy" Lining did not make it, losing in the group elimination matches.
At 51, Reyes has shown signs of slowing. He himself has admitted that he's slowly beginning to feel his age. Still, he didn't want to be counted out.
"I'm not yet a wash-up. I think I'm good for some more years," stressed Reyes, who once emerged as the most admired Filipino athlete in a nationwide survey conducted by the private polling firm Social Weather Stations, receiving the votes of 33 percent of 1,200 respondents.
By the way, Reyes was already 45 years old when he won the World Pool title in 1999, while Bustamante was well past 30 when he became the world's No. 1 player in 1998.
During the 1970s and '80s, the Americans were the most dominant force in world billiards. Among their top players were Nick Varner, Mike Lebron, Jay Helfert, Jimmy Rempe, Kim Davenport, Buddy Hall and, much later (in the 1990s and 2000s), Earl Strickland, Johnny Archer, Corey Deuel and Rodney Morris.
In the 1980s, Asian cue artists started to make their presence felt. In 1984, Jose "Amang" Parica started the Filipino invasion of the United States where he defeated leading American players.
Reyes followed suit and, playing under the name Cesar Morales, built a reputation that would swell to its present status -- the most dangerous and finest player on the planet.
Then in 1993, Chao Fong-pang of Chinese Taipei won the World Pool Championship, with Japan's Takeshi Okumura becoming the next champ in 1994, the same year Reyes topped the prestigious US Open 9-Ball tournament. In 1997, Parica ruled the US circuit while Bustamante became the undisputed king in 1998, winning the eight-leg Camel Pro series and pocketing a whopping total prize of P5 million.
Reyes emerged World Pool champ in 1999, with Chao repeating in 2000. Mika Immonen of Finland won in 2001, Strickland in 2002 and Thorsten Hohmann of Germany in 2003. Pagulayan gave the Philippines the world championship in 2004.
In my opinion, this present crop of Asian players can be very powerful, a force to reckon with in the years to come.
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majorpao
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 09:15:34
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Originally posted by jrpogi
yup! but it's only one tournament, they should prove it to the world.these two finalist are main stays of the SMBA9ball but did'nt win any,just WU being a finalist once,but kuo?,,,always being eliminated.
i could just really say that it's a "fluke" for them. let's see what's next in line for them.
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Originally posted by loomis
By Manolo Iñigo
Inquirer News Service
I HESITATE to point out the obvious, but the all-Taiwanese finals in the recent 2005 World Pool Championship in Kaohsiung, Taiwan, is a sign that Chinese Taipei players are now the most dominant force in international billiards.
Word of their skills had preceded them many months earlier. Philippine billiards "godfather" Aristeo "Putch" Puyat said of them: "Players from Chinese Taipei will be the biggest threat in world pool, particularly boy wonder Wu Chia-ching, the 16-year-old prodigy from Taishang county of Taipei."
Gifted with a booming break and obsessed with winning, Wu never lost his cool in eking out a nail-biting 17-16 victory over 27-year-old compatriot Kuo Po-cheng in this year's World Pool Championship match to become the youngest world champion at age 16.
And with its vast reservoir of pool talents, Taiwan could very well mark the beginning of a new dynasty in international billiards. It could also bank on battle-tested Chao Fong-pang, the first Asian to win the World Pool Championship twice (in 1993 and 2000); 2005 San Miguel Beer Asian 9-Ball Tour top finisher Yang Ching-sun, who won the third leg of the Tour in his hometown, Kaohsiung; and Chang Pei-wei, last year's losing finalist to Alex Pagulayan in the World Pool Championship.
"These Chinese Taipei players are dynamic shooters and masters of the jump shots," stressed Puyat, the country's leading billiards benefactor.
In this year's World Pool Championship, Mandaluyong City's Marlon Manalo, sponsored by Puyat Sports and Solar Sports, was the best-placed Filipino by advancing to the semifinals where he lost to Wu.
Seven other Filipinos advanced to the knockout round, namely, last year's champion Alex Pagulayan, Rodolfo Luat, former world No. 1 Francisco "Django" Bustamante, Asian Tour leg winners Ronnie Alcano and Gandy Valle, Dennis Orcollo and Warren Kiamco.
However, former World Pool champion Efren "Bata" Reyes and Antonio "Nikoy" Lining did not make it, losing in the group elimination matches.
At 51, Reyes has shown signs of slowing. He himself has admitted that he's slowly beginning to feel his age. Still, he didn't want to be counted out.
"I'm not yet a wash-up. I think I'm good for some more years," stressed Reyes, who once emerged as the most admired Filipino athlete in a nationwide survey conducted by the private polling firm Social Weather Stations, receiving the votes of 33 percent of 1,200 respondents.
By the way, Reyes was already 45 years old when he won the World Pool title in 1999, while Bustamante was well past 30 when he became the world's No. 1 player in 1998.
During the 1970s and '80s, the Americans were the most dominant force in world billiards. Among their top players were Nick Varner, Mike Lebron, Jay Helfert, Jimmy Rempe, Kim Davenport, Buddy Hall and, much later (in the 1990s and 2000s), Earl Strickland, Johnny Archer, Corey Deuel and Rodney Morris.
In the 1980s, Asian cue artists started to make their presence felt. In 1984, Jose "Amang" Parica started the Filipino invasion of the United States where he defeated leading American players.
Reyes followed suit and, playing under the name Cesar Morales, built a reputation that would swell to its present status -- the most dangerous and finest player on the planet.
Then in 1993, Chao Fong-pang of Chinese Taipei won the World Pool Championship, with Japan's Takeshi Okumura becoming the next champ in 1994, the same year Reyes topped the prestigious US Open 9-Ball tournament. In 1997, Parica ruled the US circuit while Bustamante became the undisputed king in 1998, winning the eight-leg Camel Pro series and pocketing a whopping total prize of P5 million.
Reyes emerged World Pool champ in 1999, with Chao repeating in 2000. Mika Immonen of Finland won in 2001, Strickland in 2002 and Thorsten Hohmann of Germany in 2003. Pagulayan gave the Philippines the world championship in 2004.
In my opinion, this present crop of Asian players can be very powerful, a force to reckon with in the years to come.
Kuo and Wu also are winless during the Philippine Open |
I love Shin (Rachelle Ann Go)
I love Philippine Billiards (not only Philippine but also the rest of the world)
I Love Ginebra; Never Say Die Ginebra
I hope Marlon Manalo will win the 2005 WPC title |
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loomis
Philippines
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 09:23:26
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only Kuo and Manalo are consistent in their WPC performance.
in 2004 WPC Kuo was a bronze medalist while Marlon is last 8 and just this year's WPC Kuo went undefeated the entire duration of the match and was only beaten in the finals which eventually gained him a silver medal.. for marlon a notch up for his last year performance as he is eventually a bronze medalist..
World Pool Championship is the ultimate 9 ball challenge.. a lot of WPC participants are sucessful in other 9 ball tournaments but when it comes to WPC they fade....
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Originally posted by jrpogi
yup! but it's only one tournament, they should prove it to the world.these two finalist are main stays of the SMBA9ball but did'nt win any,just WU being a finalist once,but kuo?,,,always being eliminated.
i could just really say that it's a "fluke" for them. let's see what's next in line for them.
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By Manolo Iñigo
Inquirer News Service
I HESITATE to point out the obvious, but the all-Taiwanese finals in the recent 2005 World Pool Championship in Kaohsiung, Taiwan, is a sign that Chinese Taipei players are now the most dominant force in international billiards.
Word of their skills had preceded them many months earlier. Philippine billiards "godfather" Aristeo "Putch" Puyat said of them: "Players from Chinese Taipei will be the biggest threat in world pool, particularly boy wonder Wu Chia-ching, the 16-year-old prodigy from Taishang county of Taipei."
Gifted with a booming break and obsessed with winning, Wu never lost his cool in eking out a nail-biting 17-16 victory over 27-year-old compatriot Kuo Po-cheng in this year's World Pool Championship match to become the youngest world champion at age 16.
And with its vast reservoir of pool talents, Taiwan could very well mark the beginning of a new dynasty in international billiards. It could also bank on battle-tested Chao Fong-pang, the first Asian to win the World Pool Championship twice (in 1993 and 2000); 2005 San Miguel Beer Asian 9-Ball Tour top finisher Yang Ching-sun, who won the third leg of the Tour in his hometown, Kaohsiung; and Chang Pei-wei, last year's losing finalist to Alex Pagulayan in the World Pool Championship.
"These Chinese Taipei players are dynamic shooters and masters of the jump shots," stressed Puyat, the country's leading billiards benefactor.
In this year's World Pool Championship, Mandaluyong City's Marlon Manalo, sponsored by Puyat Sports and Solar Sports, was the best-placed Filipino by advancing to the semifinals where he lost to Wu.
Seven other Filipinos advanced to the knockout round, namely, last year's champion Alex Pagulayan, Rodolfo Luat, former world No. 1 Francisco "Django" Bustamante, Asian Tour leg winners Ronnie Alcano and Gandy Valle, Dennis Orcollo and Warren Kiamco.
However, former World Pool champion Efren "Bata" Reyes and Antonio "Nikoy" Lining did not make it, losing in the group elimination matches.
At 51, Reyes has shown signs of slowing. He himself has admitted that he's slowly beginning to feel his age. Still, he didn't want to be counted out.
"I'm not yet a wash-up. I think I'm good for some more years," stressed Reyes, who once emerged as the most admired Filipino athlete in a nationwide survey conducted by the private polling firm Social Weather Stations, receiving the votes of 33 percent of 1,200 respondents.
By the way, Reyes was already 45 years old when he won the World Pool title in 1999, while Bustamante was well past 30 when he became the world's No. 1 player in 1998.
During the 1970s and '80s, the Americans were the most dominant force in world billiards. Among their top players were Nick Varner, Mike Lebron, Jay Helfert, Jimmy Rempe, Kim Davenport, Buddy Hall and, much later (in the 1990s and 2000s), Earl Strickland, Johnny Archer, Corey Deuel and Rodney Morris.
In the 1980s, Asian cue artists started to make their presence felt. In 1984, Jose "Amang" Parica started the Filipino invasion of the United States where he defeated leading American players.
Reyes followed suit and, playing under the name Cesar Morales, built a reputation that would swell to its present status -- the most dangerous and finest player on the planet.
Then in 1993, Chao Fong-pang of Chinese Taipei won the World Pool Championship, with Japan's Takeshi Okumura becoming the next champ in 1994, the same year Reyes topped the prestigious US Open 9-Ball tournament. In 1997, Parica ruled the US circuit while Bustamante became the undisputed king in 1998, winning the eight-leg Camel Pro series and pocketing a whopping total prize of P5 million.
Reyes emerged World Pool champ in 1999, with Chao repeating in 2000. Mika Immonen of Finland won in 2001, Strickland in 2002 and Thorsten Hohmann of Germany in 2003. Pagulayan gave the Philippines the world championship in 2004.
In my opinion, this present crop of Asian players can be very powerful, a force to reckon with in the years to come.
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loomis
Philippines
1553 Posts |
Posted - 19/07/2005 : 09:58:17
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iopool,
philippines billiard organization is BSCP (billiard snooker congress of the philippines). it is headed by Mr. Fajardo.
sad to say, BSCP is just good on paper. I had also asked last year Mr. J P de Tagle (secretary general of BSCP and treasurer of ACBS- asian confederation of billiard sports)why we do not have entries on World Junior Championships and World Games wherein philippines is considered one of the powerhouse . Mr. de Tagle said he has plans of fielding an entry in the world junior championships this year, but in turned out we dont have an entry again...i dont know what happened to this because i have not talked to him again this year. with regards to World Games, this is what he said... APBU has 4 slots alloted for the World Games in 9 ball.. and the qualifying tournament is always held in Taipei.
so he did not pick a player to go to Taipei for the qualifying spot
on world games..since it would appear Taipei wants to get hold of the world games 9 ball entries.. out of respect to taipei organizers he did not pick a player to go to taipei to go to qualifying stage for a very limited slot.
but based from APBU, francisco bustamante is one of the entries for the qualifying tournament because of the rankings on APBU.. however, i'm not sure whether bustamante was informed about this or not..
out of the 4 slots for the APBU,.. one was alloted for the highest Asian player on the 2004 WPC which is Pei Wei Chang (finalist in 2004)
so eventually there are only 3 slots for grab in the qualifying tournament.. so the final lists of players for the world games are as follows.
Men
Pei-Wei Chang (Chinese Taipei)
Che-Wei Fu (Chinese Taipei)
Masashi Hoshi (Japan)
Sin-Young Park (Korea)
hopefully in 2009 world games we will have an entry on the World Games in 9 Ball. Mr. de Tagle is very active on snooker and so far he is the only BSCP official who is active in terms of fielding entries on APBU sanctioned tournaments.
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And now I want to ask the filipino friends one questoin: why had never any young filipinos joined this tournment and why are the filipinos always absent from any qualifying tournments held by APBU? (In fact, the filipinos are also absent from World Game this week.) I wonder whether your billiard organizatio is still running.
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By Manolo Iñigo
Inquirer News Service
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dek71
Philippines
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 13:22:55
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Thanks Mab. I also went to BD for the rules. Di ko alam kung slow lang ako pero natorete ako sa rules.  Putya sa 8, 9, rotation, poker, at killers na lang ako.
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Originally posted by mabalasek
HAHAHAHAH!!!! Deins ko din alam paano laruin one-pocket pre. Nalaman ko nga lang na may one pocket na laro nung may nag post dito sa forum nung thread about Bata being a hall of famer in that dicipline.
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Originally posted by dek71
Mab, do you have mechanics for one pocket? My pool/drinking buddies want to play one pocket for fun. Matagal pa isang game? Last time we played poker 9 cards each and it was fun.
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Originally posted by mabalasek
8-ball, straight pool and one-pocket are American games buddy....
I highly doubt if there are that many Filipinos that also excel in those games. The most common game that they play is rotation.
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cloybloy
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 17:14:11
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All government organizations, entities and instrumentalities in the Philippines, for many years now, have kept themselves busy with politics and entry to any qualification tournament is farthest from their minds.
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Originally posted by iopool
In the past 15 years, taiwan did their best to train many talented young players (ex. Yang, Hsia, Kun-Chang Huang, Lu, Jung-Ling Chang, Ying-Chieh Chen, Chia-Ching Wu, Yu-Lun Wu, and Ko etc.) and they also have had excellent shows in the world junior championships and already caused a revolution in taiwan these years. Wu's victory is cheering, but in my opinion, the greatest achievement of taiwan this year is the rising of these new talents in the adult group.
Besides, Hohmann and Vimos Foldes both had ever join the world junior championship in the past. And now I want to ask the filipino friends one questoin: why had never any young filipinos joined this tournment and why are the filipinos always absent from any qualifying tournments held by APBU? (In fact, the filipinos are also absent from World Game this week.) I wonder whether your billiard organizatio is still running.
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Originally posted by loomis
By Manolo Iñigo
Inquirer News Service
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yanyan
Philippines
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Posted - 20/07/2005 : 03:03:25
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a bit of good news for phil billiards...i just hope it's not just a flash in the pan. =)
Billiards academy eyed to face Taiwan wizards
By richard dy
The Billiards and Snookers Congress of the Philippines (BSCP), the country’s governing body for the sport, plans to establish a billiards academy to keep up with the giant strides of Taiwan whose deep pool of talents ruled the recent World Pool Championship.
Billiards patron Aristeo "Putch" Puyat admitted that Taiwanese sports officials have succeeded in producing young and promising players capable of challenging the country’s best cue artists.
"Sa palagay ko, some of the Asian countries like Chinese-Taipei have leveled with us. Yung second layer of players nila eh magagaling, kamukha nung 15-year-old na world champion (Chia-Ching Wu) nila ngayon. Dun tayo talo but of course, kung pag-uusapan natin yung mga beterano meron pa naman tayo nun. However, I believe we need to also concentrate on building our second layer," Puyat said in yesterday’s PSA Forum.
Yen Makabenta, chairman of the BSCP, said the billiards academy would hopefully provide the successful transitioning of older talents to the upcoming ones.
"We are taking over the Game Ball venue on top of the Philippine Sports Medicine and set up the billiards academy there that would train coaches, players and referees. Marami tayong magagaling na mga billiards players na bata."
"We’ve studied the comprehensive program of Taiwan when we visited Kaohsiung. And we noticed that five to 10 years back, the Taiwanese were simply learning from us. We have some Filipino players playing there before. Now, they have a structured program that trains players from all levels. In fact, their players are coming not just from the city, but everywhere in Taiwan," noted Makabenta.
Despite the country’s setback in the last world pool, the Filipinos, among them Efren "Bata" Reyes, and Francisco "Django" Bustamante, still remain a force reckon with.
Aside from the two, other prominent players like Gandy Valle, Rodolfo "Boy Samson" Luat, Marlon Manalo and even Alex Pagulayan, are expected to keep the country’s flag afloat.
The country, according to Makabenta, is fielding a strong field in the SEA Games and is likely to rule the 9-ball, 8-ball and rotation events
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